Title: High-Risk Radioactive Material Disposal Description: Radioactive materials are commonly used for medical, industrial and research purposes. But after use, what's being done to ensure radioactive materials are disposed of safely. In a new report, we look at these concerns. GAO's Allison Bawden joins us to tell us more. Related GAO Work: GAO-24-105998, High-Risk Radioactive Material: Opportunities Exist to Improve the Security of Sources No Longer in Use Released: November 2023 [MUSIC] [Allison Bawden:] Radioactive sources that are beyond their useful lives still can pose safety and security risks, and they should be disposed of. [Holly Hobbs:] Hi and welcome to GAO's Watchdog Report. Your source for fact-based, nonpartisan news and information from the U.S. Government Accountability Office. I'm your host, Holly Hobbs. Radioactive materials are commonly used for medical, industrial and research purposes. For example, these materials are used to treat cancer or to sterilize medical instruments. But after use, what's being done to ensure radioactive materials are disposed of safely? In a new report, we look this issue. Joining us to tell us more is GAO's Allison Bawden, an expert on radioactive material security. Thanks for joining us. [Allison Bawden:] Thanks for having me, Holly. [Holly Hobbs:] So Allison, why is this important? What were the concerns that led us to look at this issue? [Allison Bawden:] Well, all radioactive sources have a useful life, but eventually they decay. And at that point, ideally, these sources would be disposed of. But for some very commonly used radioactive sources there are no requirements for when a licensee must dispose of the material. And disposal can be really expensive--sometimes as much as $200,000 per source. So, there's a risk that these sources will become abandoned or orphaned rather than safely disposed of. Orphaned sources pose risks, especially that they could be mishandled or used to make a dirty bomb, and that could result in tens of billions of dollars in socio-economic impacts. [Holly Hobbs:] So the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, the NRC, and the Department of Energy, they're supposed to oversee disposal of radioactive materials, right? How do they do this? [Allison Bawden:] That's right. NRC, or states to which it has delegated this authority, regulate the possession of radioactive materials. And NRC sets the rules for licensees to store these materials securely and safely. They also license commercial disposal facilities. The Department of Energy also has a facility deep underground for the most hazardous waste from these sources that can't be disposed of commercially. So, NRC does not set requirements for licensees to actually dispose of all of these sources. There's a little bit of a nuance there. Some states do have requirements and incentives to dispose of sources, such as setting time limits for the disposal and imposing fees, if a licensee holds on to an unused source for too long. These requirements are designed to limit the number of sources that could become orphaned or abandoned. [Holly Hobbs:] This idea of radioactive materials--this term, right--it's like a bucket term that's supposed to cover a bunch of different hazardous materials. Do those materials have different shelf-lives or other differences that would impact their disposal? [Allison Bawden:] That's right. So what's most important for waste is the concentration of radioactive isotopes that are in that waste. And that determines how hazardous the waste is and for how long it will be hazardous. The rules around disposal are essentially tied to this level of hazard. So those with lower concentrations of radioactive isotopes are at least hazardous, and those can be disposed of at commercial facilities licensed by NRC or state regulators. Sometimes they can also be recycled. But those with higher concentrations are more hazardous and, in some cases, can only be disposed of in the Department of Energy's facility. But in one particular case, for waste associated with a material called Americium 241, especially those sources that are of foreign origin. So they're imported. They're not made domestically. There's actually no legal pathway for disposing of that material. This material is in wide use throughout the country. And so, when it's no longer useful, right now, it has nowhere to go. [Holly Hobbs:] So what is the NRC and the Department of Energy doing to help address these challenges? [Allison Bawden:] NRC is exploring new rules to expand requirements for licensees to make arrangements at the time that they obtain a source to cover the costs of disposal. NRC does not yet know whether smaller sources would be covered by these financial assurances. And of course, the Department of Energy continues to implement its programs to offset the cost of disposal of certain sources, and to recover orphaned sources and dispose of them when they learn of their location. But NRC and DOE are both in a bind when it comes to the radioactive waste that currently does not have an approved pathway for disposal. We've previously suggested that Congress provide direction to the Department of Energy so that it can proceed with a decision on how to dispose of this waste and where. {MUSIC} [Holly Hobbs:] Allison just told us that while there are requirements to dispose of radioactive materials, these aren't specific enough to promote timely disposal. And that sometimes, even when users want to dispose of materials, the cost might be too high or there's no pathway for doing so. [Holly Hobbs:] So, Allison, what more do we think the Nuclear Regulatory Commission and the Department of Energy should be doing to improve how radioactive materials are disposed of? [Allison Bawden:] We identified six leading practices endorsed by key organizations that are not reflected in NRC's requirements. We recommended that NRC assess these practices to determine if they would minimize the time licensees hold on to unneeded sources. So, some examples of these practices are extending financial assurances to cover high-risk, but smaller sources, tracking smaller sources, not just large ones, to have better knowledge about where abandoned or orphaned sources might be. Other things are establishing possession time limits or fees for retaining sources that are past their prime or creating orphan source funds. [Holly Hobbs:] And last question. What's the bottom line of this report? [Allison Bawden:] Radioactive sources that are beyond their useful lives still can pose safety and security risks, and they should be disposed to prevent their misuse. NRC has not assessed leading practices to determine if implementing them would reduce these risks. And we think they should. [Holly Hobbs:] That was Allison Bawden talking about GAO's new report on radioactive materials. Thanks for your time, Allison. [Allison Bawden:] Thank you so much. [Holly Hobbs:] And thank you for listening to the Watchdog Report. To hear more podcasts, subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen. And make sure to leave a rating and review to let others know about the work we're doing. For more from the congressional watchdog, the U.S. Government Accountability Office, visit us at GAO.gov.