Title: Department of Defense Efforts to Acquire Artificial Intelligence Description: Artificial intelligence could transform national defense and security. The Department of Defense has designated it a top priority in its modernization efforts. What are DOD's plans to gain AI technology and capabilities? We'll learn more from GAO's Jon Ludwigson. Related GAO Work: GAO-23-105850, Artificial Intelligence: DOD Needs Department-wide Guidance to Inform Acquisitions Released: June 2023 [Music] [Jon Ludwigson:] AI is a very important capability. It offers a great deal of promise. The challenge is that developing AI is hard. [Holly Hobbs:] Hi, and welcome to GAO's Watchdog Report. Your source for fact based, nonpartisan news and information from the U.S. Government Accountability Office. I' m your host, Holly Hobbs. Artificial intelligence could transform national defense and security. So much so that the Department of Defense has designated it a top priority in its modernization efforts. So what are DOD's plans to gain AI technology and capabilities? We'll learn more from GAO's Jon Ludwigson, an expert on defense modernization and acquisitions. Thanks for joining us. [Jon Ludwigson:] Thank you for having me. [Holly Hobbs:] So Jon, maybe we can start with a basic question. Why is artificial intelligence so important to national defense? [Jon Ludwigson:] One of the great opportunities is that eventually AI can do things faster than people can do them, because it gets very good at identifying data from routine data streams. So when you look at what DOD has to do in protecting the nation, pursuing national interests, those kinds of things, sometimes information is available in great quantities. You would have to deploy thousands of personnel in order to cull through imagery or a recording in order to identify the object of interest. Whereas the computer through AI can do that very, very quickly, and provide that information to decision makers in the Department of Defense or the President to make key decisions in real time. [Holly Hobbs:] What's sort of the current status of AI in national defense? [Jon Ludwigson:] DOD has made investments over the years to try to develop the capability to have machines do things that currently soldiers, sailors, airmen and guardians are tasked with doing. Things like examining photographs, pictures taken from a variety of conditions, allowing them to identify objects of interest, say identifying a tank from a picture of the forest from above. And that can be very helpful because that means that you don't have to have allocated a precious soldier, sailor, airman or guardian to do that task and frees them up to do something else that only people can do. [Holly Hobbs:] We've looked at DOD's efforts to acquire more AI technology, and some of the challenges for DOD. What did we find? [Jon Ludwigson:] I think one of the challenges with acquiring AI is it is quintessentially different than building a tank or a ship or a satellite. Those kinds of things are difficult, don't get me wrong. Building any of those things is hard, and we have specific processes for doing that. But we've got more experience doing it. AI is more similar to developing software, except it's more complex. And so what we've tried to do is to help DOD identify ways that they can get better at developing AI. The challenge with AI is you are writing software that does a thing, but then you're also have to recognize that AI is about learning to do it better. So the initial task set out for AI is to identify a tank in the forest. But in order to do that, you'd need to write the code to identify a tank, and then show it a lot of pictures of tanks. It's that data, learning from the data on -- yes, that's a tank; no, that's a car-- kind of an experience that the AI has to go through. But once it gets in place, the AI can get better and better and better at identifying tanks in a variety of different scenarios. [Holly Hobbs:] How does DOD's efforts compare to what we might see when private entities or companies try to buy AI? [Jon Ludwigson:] Private companies are also trying to figure out how to do things, have AI do things that that they have people currently doing. Things like examining records or identifying potentially nefarious transactions in bank records, those kinds of things. So private companies have developed a toolkit for applying AI to some of these situations. We identified a number of different processes that private companies go through, including things--like understanding the mission need, developing a business case, tailoring the acquisition approach, and a couple of others --that we think can be very helpful for DOD when it goes to develop and acquire AI, because the process of acquiring the technology is going to be somewhat similar. Private companies, for example, are very concerned in making sure that the intellectual property is clearly outlined in the contracts that they enter into so that they don't get bound to a single vendor, or they don't give all their data to the vendor, and then the data is no longer theirs to use. Those kinds of things are very important for the Department of Defense. {Music} [Holly Hobbs:] So Jon just told us that Artificial Intelligence is important because it could be potentially transformative to national defense efforts. And that the DOD could use lessons learn from the private sector to improve its own acquisition efforts. So Jon, moving forward, what more do we think DOD and the military departments could be doing to improve their AI acquisition efforts? [Jon Ludwigson:] We think that DOD can harvest some of the lessons from these private companies and use that to develop DOD-wide guidance and some guidance at the service level in order to help position DOD to be more successful in acquiring AI that does what it needs at a reasonable cost. So the recommendation that we end up making is that DOD should develop AI acquisition guidance and that the services should develop guidance for acquiring AI within each service, because each service is a little different in the acquisition process is specifically delegated to the services. [Holly Hobbs:] And last question, what's the bottom line of this report? [Jon Ludwigson:] AI is a very important capability, it offers a great deal of promise. The challenge is that developing AI is hard. So acquiring that capability--being able to have it, and then also being able to consistently have access to it at a reasonable cost--is really center for us. And we think that the department can harvest those lessons from the private sector in developing reasonable guidance so that they can be in a better position long term. [Holly Hobbs:] That was John Ludwigson talking about GAO's new report on DOD's artificial intelligence acquisition plans. Thanks for your time, Jon. [Jon Ludwigson:] Thank you, Holly. I appreciate the time today. [Holly Hobbs:] And thank you for listening to the Watchdog report. To hear more podcasts, subscribe to us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen and make sure to leave a rating and review to let others know about the work we're doing. For more from the congressional watchdog, the US Government Accountability Office, visit us at GAO.gov.