Title: Undercover GAO Agent attempting to enroll into the Head Start program - Audio Recording 3 Description: Head Start Associate Correctly Calculates Income. Related GAO Work: GAO-19-519: Head Start: Action Needed to Enhance Program Oversight and Mitigate Significant Fraud and Improper Payment Risks Release: October 2019 [ Title on screen: ] Undercover GAO Special Agent attempting to enroll into the Head Start Program. GAO-19-519 Audio Recording #3 [ GAO SPECIAL AGENT: ] I have two part-time jobs. [ HEAD START CENTER: ] Okay. [ GAO SPECIAL AGENT: ] So I got a employment letter. [ HEAD START CENTER: ] And you were, like, working at the same place? [ GAO SPECIAL AGENT: ] No, two different part-time jobs. [ HEAD START CENTER: ] No, two -- but for a long time, same places, or it's a new job? [ GAO SPECIAL AGENT: ] No, yeah. No, it's -- I've been in for a while. [ HEAD START CENTER: ] For a while? [ GAO SPECIAL AGENT: ] Yeah, yes. [ HEAD START CENTER: ] Did you have two paystubs; for each job? [ GAO SPECIAL AGENT: ] Well, I got a paystub and then I got employment letter. [ HEAD START CENTER: ] Okay, I don't need employment letters (indiscernible). If it's -- it was a new job, then I would have taken the employment letter, but if you've been working there for a long time, both the places - [ GAO SPECIAL AGENT: ] Oh, yeah, a long, long time. [ HEAD START CENTER: ] Yeah. Then, can I have your pay stub? The letters show your to date paystubs, right? [ GAO SPECIAL AGENT: ] Which do -- which one do you want? Excuse me? [ HEAD START CENTER: ] Year to date. It should say year to date paystub, like the amount. Can I have one? [ GAO SPECIAL AGENT: ] Yeah. [ HEAD START CENTER: ] This is from one. [ GAO SPECIAL AGENT: ] Yes. [ HEAD START CENTER: ] And where's your another - [ GAO SPECIAL AGENT: ] Oh, here's, here's -- there's two paystubs, I'm sorry. [ HEAD START CENTER: ] Okay. [ GAO SPECIAL AGENT: ] And all I got is an employment letter from my other job, which is a part-time job too. [ HEAD START CENTER: ] Okay, but this is the same? [ GAO SPECIAL AGENT: ] Yes, um-hum. [ HEAD START CENTER: ] And this is a -- oh, and this is - for how long you've been working here? [ GAO SPECIAL AGENT: ] Well, probably -- well, at least for all of last year, so. [ HEAD START CENTER: ] For last year? [ GAO SPECIAL AGENT: ] Yeah. [ HEAD START CENTER: ] So it's 14,440 (ph.) then? [ GAO SPECIAL AGENT: ] For part-time, yes. [ HEAD START CENTER: ] For part-time? [ GAO SPECIAL AGENT: ] For that one, yes. [ HEAD START CENTER: ] For -- from last year or this year too? [ GAO SPECIAL AGENT: ] No, last year. [ HEAD START CENTER: ] Last year. Let me just see. And what's your family size? Family - [ GAO SPECIAL AGENT: ] Oh, it's 1 just -- it's just me and my son. [ HEAD START CENTER: ] You and your son? [ GAO SPECIAL AGENT: ] Yes. [ HEAD START CENTER: ] Okay. [ GAO SPECIAL AGENT: ] Now I just want to clarify, I had -- there's two part-time jobs. [ HEAD START CENTER: ] Okay. [ GAO SPECIAL AGENT: ] Okay. Come just to (indiscernible). So you won't qualify for Head Start program. [ GAO SPECIAL AGENT: ] Why is that? [ HEAD START CENTER: ] Because your income is more. Let me bring the sheet and let me show you. [ GAO SPECIAL AGENT: ] Okay. [ HEAD START CENTER: ] So basically, this is the threshold basically. Again, it's on the application, if the amount is more than 1353, which is, you cannot -- you won't be eligible (indiscernible). Okay. [ GAO SPECIAL AGENT: ] Oh, so you're counting both of my part-time jobs -- [ HEAD START CENTER: ] Yeah, you have to. [ GAO SPECIAL AGENT: ] Okay, okay, I see. [ HEAD START CENTER: ] You have to. [ GAO SPECIAL AGENT: ] So you can't count them individually? [ HEAD START CENTER: ] No. [ GAO SPECIAL AGENT: ] Just -- gotcha, I see. [ HEAD START CENTER: ] No. Another thing is you might be eligible for CCAP, which is called the Childcare Assistance Program, and since you're already working. But you have to find a daycare, like, like any other daycares in your mind you're looking for your 4-year-old or -