From the U.S. Government Accountability Office, www.gao.gov Transcript for: Rapid Simultaneous Diagnosis of Multiple Human Infectious Diseases Description: Recent advances in science and technology are making it possible to simultaneously test for multiple infections at the same time. We talk about the potential benefits to patients and challenges with bringing this technology to a doctor's office near you. Related GAO Work: GAO-17-347: Technology Assessment: Medical devices: Capabilities and challenges of technologies to enable rapid diagnoses of infectious diseases Released: September 2017 [ Background Music ] [ Tim Persons: ] Imagine now that changing where it's more patient-centered rather than medical system centered. [ Jacques Arsenault: ] Welcome to GAO's Watchdog Report, your source for news and information from the U.S. Government Accountability Office. I'm Jacques Arsenault. Say you're sick and experiencing nasal congestion, a really bad cough, and muscle pain. All typical symptoms that indicate you could have the flu, a common cold, or something more serious. Now imagine visiting your doctor and instead of your doctor testing for one infection at a time, that they're capable of testing for multiple infections all at once. If you're thinking this scenario sounds like a scene from an episode of Star Trek, bear with me. Chief Scientist Tim Persons from our Applied Research and Method's team sat down with me recently to discuss the new technological capabilities and challenges of being able to rapidly diagnose infectious diseases. I asked Tim to tell me more about what's in this latest report. [ Tim Persons: ] Infectious diseases are still a leading cause of death in the world. For example in the 2015 and 2016 flu season here in the U.S, 310,000 Americans were hospitalized as a result. There are still millions that didn't get hospitalized so it just shows just one infectious disease influenza the impact it has. What of course confounds the medical staff, the doctors, the physician assistants, the nurses- is that things ranging from the everyday common cold all the way up to very scary diseases like the Ebola Virus, which we see recently in this country, all present with influenza like symptoms. So the key challenge is how do I know what's flu? Or what's the cold? Or what's something else more serious. When you look at the fact that 70 percent of all key medical decisions are informed by diagnostics, then you crosswalk that with the challenges of healthcare cost, as we know, and then the emergence of other emerging infectious diseases like we've seen recently with Zika, then it's a very serious challenge indeed for these technologies to try and address. [ Jacques Arsenault: ] So is the idea that you can get the results right away at the point- of-care like at your doctor's office? [ Tim Persons: ] This is a key idea Jacques, on that is doing it exactly as you say at the point-of-care. It could be the doctor's office, it could be a local clinic, it could be a hospital, even in your own home, which would be powerful indeed. And be able to do it in a reasonable amount of time. It could be anywhere from tens of minutes up to two hours. This challenge is the current model which is a centralized laboratory approach where you take the blood, or the sputum, or the urine, those sort of samples, and you send them out, ship them to a centralized lab usually off-site. And that takes time. For example, myself when I did my recent annual physical I had a blood draw and it was going to be shipped off off-site and days to a week later I got a note from the doctor. Imagine now that changing where it's more patient-centered rather than medical system centered where they could tell me an answer within 30 minutes. [ Jacques Arsenault: ] So with all the things that you're trying to do what are some of the challenges associated with developing this technology? [ Tim Persons: ] Some of the challenges are of course these tools have to be cost competitive. So you have to be compared to what's the current cost and that's is in time and money and techniques to be able to take the test and read the test. So that's one of them. It needs to be of course, high performing. You don't want to have a lesser performing diagnostic even though it's measuring multiple things, you want it to still be as good as the baseline, the singular test that exists today in the environment. You want to be able to have this, having gone through a regulatory process, that's easier said than done, of course, and these devices particular are challenged with that and there are reasons why we discuss it in the report. But you also want them to be timely and relevant to the medical market. There wasn't, for example, not too long ago there was no market for Zika diagnostics and all of a sudden that's now important. So all these things are challenges there. There's also the need for the developers to have access to the scientific data, the clinical samples that they need, as well as these have to be designed for simplicity. You want to try and get them to not be super complex so that if you're trying to push it to the point-of-care you don't have to have a high tech lab technician have to do the work for you. [ Jacques Arsenault: ] And are the costs for these technologies steep? [ Tim Persons: ] Development costs are always steep for these devices so that's why it's still -- there's sort of a now and not yet, some have already been developed, there's still a lot of work, of course to do. Just purchasing the device to read the test and so on can be anywhere from $25,000 to half a million or over half a million dollars, which again sounds steep but compared to if you're able to get better clinical outcomes, if you're able to get things sooner, answers sooner, and more of the answers in one shot, then that actually could have a huge cost savings, but still that has to be proven out and practiced in at time. [ Background Music ] [ Jacques Arsenault: ] It seems like this technology could soon become a common tool used in doctor's offices in the near future. So I asked Tim, do the benefits outweigh the challenges and costs of producing these devices? [ Tim Persons: ] I think given the promise of the technology and the breath, again there's a now -- there's some good things going on now so that gives you reason for optimism. But the impact that these technologies could have again on cheaper, faster, and potentially more accurate medical diagnostics or even then projecting that into the general public health surveillance. So if you're tracking let's say a flu season and trying to work if you're a public health official to manage whole populations. Not just a single individual and even what our Department of Defense, Department of Homeland Security have to care about with biosurveillance, you know, biodefense in case we have bioterrorism in our midst. These things have a tremendous opportunity or provide tremendous capabilities to address those. [ Jacques Arsenault: ] And, finally what would you say is the bottom line of this report? [ Tim Persons: ] The bottom line is that these technologies that enable these rapid diagnoses of these infectious diseases, again the leading cause of death in the world are in the now and are to come and again, could have tremendous impact. 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